2007-11-05
龙芯真象
看了这篇文章,相当难过。
但即使是这样,我认为龙芯还是有希望。
它的激励作用,鼓舞作用要大于商业价值。
我仍然相信胡伟武。
龙芯 汉芯
参考:
www.linux.com/feature/119890
但即使是这样,我认为龙芯还是有希望。
它的激励作用,鼓舞作用要大于商业价值。
我仍然相信胡伟武。
龙芯 汉芯
参考:
www.linux.com/feature/119890
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paofan
2007-11-06
gigix 写道
引用
1 明年,中国有许多中学生都用上了龙芯电脑(即使是MIPS)。
2 接着,有些中学生接触到了开源的世界,并把相当的热情投入其中。(每年举办龙芯平台中学生设计比赛什么的)于是,出现了中国版的 Linus(十几岁时就用汇编语言,在Commodore Vic-20微机上编程。) Miguel De Icaza (26岁设计Gnome)。
2 接着,有些中学生接触到了开源的世界,并把相当的热情投入其中。(每年举办龙芯平台中学生设计比赛什么的)于是,出现了中国版的 Linus(十几岁时就用汇编语言,在Commodore Vic-20微机上编程。) Miguel De Icaza (26岁设计Gnome)。
那还不如寄望流氓软件做得无孔不入,逼得中国四亿网民全部用Linux
也对 呵呵
总比没有希望好
ray_linn
2007-11-06
gigix 写道
引用
1 明年,中国有许多中学生都用上了龙芯电脑(即使是MIPS)。
2 接着,有些中学生接触到了开源的世界,并把相当的热情投入其中。(每年举办龙芯平台中学生设计比赛什么的)于是,出现了中国版的 Linus(十几岁时就用汇编语言,在Commodore Vic-20微机上编程。) Miguel De Icaza (26岁设计Gnome)。
2 接着,有些中学生接触到了开源的世界,并把相当的热情投入其中。(每年举办龙芯平台中学生设计比赛什么的)于是,出现了中国版的 Linus(十几岁时就用汇编语言,在Commodore Vic-20微机上编程。) Miguel De Icaza (26岁设计Gnome)。
那还不如寄望流氓软件做得无孔不入,逼得中国四亿网民全部用Linux
我只能说:泡饭满可爱的...
gigix
2007-11-06
引用
1 明年,中国有许多中学生都用上了龙芯电脑(即使是MIPS)。
2 接着,有些中学生接触到了开源的世界,并把相当的热情投入其中。(每年举办龙芯平台中学生设计比赛什么的)于是,出现了中国版的 Linus(十几岁时就用汇编语言,在Commodore Vic-20微机上编程。) Miguel De Icaza (26岁设计Gnome)。
2 接着,有些中学生接触到了开源的世界,并把相当的热情投入其中。(每年举办龙芯平台中学生设计比赛什么的)于是,出现了中国版的 Linus(十几岁时就用汇编语言,在Commodore Vic-20微机上编程。) Miguel De Icaza (26岁设计Gnome)。
那还不如寄望流氓软件做得无孔不入,逼得中国四亿网民全部用Linux
paofan
2007-11-06
yuxie 写道
5000-6000?
http://www.loongson.cn/loongson/article/2007/1028/article_126.html
“2F福珑迷你电脑:价格区间为1800~2200元/台。”
http://www.loongson.cn/loongson/article/2007/1028/article_126.html
“2F福珑迷你电脑:价格区间为1800~2200元/台。”
估计不是量产。
具体等明年再看
其实按现在硬件价格走势,明年第一季度2200元应该还是有可能配不错的盒子的。
现在关键是:
1 CPU 是否真的能源于MIPS而高于MIPS.
2 软件开发平台是否成熟。
3 产业链是否完整,特别Linux软件系统移植是否完备。
MIPS是芯片业的Linux, 现在国内中科、新华、中标等 等 在操作系统级都还没有太大建树,因此在芯片设计领域短期内出现奇迹的可能性不大。
最可能的结果是:
1 明年,中国有许多中学生都用上了龙芯电脑(即使是MIPS)。
2 接着,有些中学生接触到了开源的世界,并把相当的热情投入其中。(每年举办龙芯平台中学生设计比赛什么的)于是,出现了中国版的 Linus(十几岁时就用汇编语言,在Commodore Vic-20微机上编程。) Miguel De Icaza (26岁设计Gnome)。
3 接着,中国版的CPU 出现。可能还不只一种,有源于MIPS的,有源于x86的(有可能是台湾版的哈,x86一开始就他们搞的,386芯片是苗丰强原创)。
4 接着 ......
zzsczz
2007-11-05
知识产权 比 鸦片 更厉害。
cat
2007-11-05
官方不说“完全自主知识产权”不怎么懂的新闻媒体也会说的吧。我印象里看到过几次这么宣传的新闻。这个么也只能说媒体或者领导可能是这么宣传惯了,就用小脑写了一篇。
反正这玩意儿要能赚钱就行了,起码别像那篇文章里面说地那样劳民伤财。对于这些东西一贯的感觉总是不太好,听其言观其行。
反正这玩意儿要能赚钱就行了,起码别像那篇文章里面说地那样劳民伤财。对于这些东西一贯的感觉总是不太好,听其言观其行。
yuxie
2007-11-05
我觉得也不用太拿老外网站的话当回事。我就没记得龙芯怎么宣传过“完全自主知识产权”,各种侵权传闻起来后,计算所的解释也很中肯。好像今年早些时候通过跟意法半导体的合作把产权问题也都解决了。不用太敏感。
yuxie
2007-11-05
5000-6000?
http://www.loongson.cn/loongson/article/2007/1028/article_126.html
“2F福珑迷你电脑:价格区间为1800~2200元/台。”
http://www.loongson.cn/loongson/article/2007/1028/article_126.html
“2F福珑迷你电脑:价格区间为1800~2200元/台。”
dlee
2007-11-05
不理解为何农民伯伯就一定需要龙芯电脑。
农民伯伯需要的是高性价比的神舟电脑。
农民伯伯需要的是高性价比的神舟电脑。
paofan
2007-11-05
To earn back the trust of the government and the Chinese people, ICT launched many ambitious yet ultimately fruitless plans over the past two years. For example, it promised to produce a 1,998-yuan ($250) laptop for Chinese students in 2007, but finally declared that the price would be at 5,000 to 6,000 yuan ($660 to $800) when it might go on the market next year.
jebtang
2007-11-05
yuxie 写道
看了半天,这篇文章也没啥 “真相”抖搂出来啊,有啥难过的?
标题党???
的确是真的。
Behind-the-scenes controversy
Originally, ICT claimed that Loongson has completely independent intellectual property rights. As it turned out, however, ICT had been using the MIPS instruction set without obtaining a license. ICT asked the government to pay for the license at $200,000 per generation of Loongson chip but was refused. After failing to come to an agreement with MIPS Technologies, ICT had to stop referring to the Loongson chips as MIPS-compatible processors.
To earn back the trust of the government and the Chinese people, ICT launched many ambitious yet ultimately fruitless plans over the past two years. For example, it promised to produce a 1,998-yuan ($250) laptop for Chinese students in 2007, but finally declared that the price would be at 5,000 to 6,000 yuan ($660 to $800) when it might go on the market next year.
ICT had to resort to international cooperation to settle its trust problem. It worked with STMicroelectronics to get a proper license; STMicroelectronics had signed a licensing agreement with MIPS Technologies for the MIPS64 architecture. ICT hopes that STMicroelectronics, one of the 10 largest chip makers in the world, can help improve Loongson's production technology. In exchange, STMicroelectronics has a five-year agreement to produce and sell Loongson processors and computers in markets around the world. According to the agreement, STMicroelectronics will pay ICT $2 for each Loongson chip sold.
Loongson Box won't make inroads into the market soon because of its poor price-performance ratio. Last year, ICT trial-produced 1,000 Loongson Box products and sold them at 1,599 yuan ($210), but the price of the mass-produced Loongson Box will be higher than the trial-produced version. With display, keyboard, mouse, and CD-ROM, its price may reach $400, which is no less than many better-performing computers with Intel or AMD CPUs. Loongson's lone advantage seems to be its low power consumption.
A plus for ICT is that the Chinese government will support Loongson chips regardless of the price-performance ratio. Once Loongson chips can meet basic demand, China plans buy them for its army, government offices, and public education. In addition, some local governments have been purchasing computers for China's rural areas to demonstrate the achievement of the "new country construction." It's estimated that China's rural areas will utilize at least 6 million computers in 2007 and 2008, giving Loongson a big boost in this arena.
gigix
2007-11-05
引用
Originally, ICT claimed that Loongson has completely independent intellectual property rights. As it turned out, however, ICT had been using the MIPS instruction set without obtaining a license.
现在中国的这些所谓科研,凡是提什么独立知识产权的,要么是不知道什么叫独立知识产权是为蠢人,要么是知道而故意瞎说是为骗子。
linxizeng
2007-11-05
钱多的话可以买一本试试...
ray_linn
2007-11-05
研究和生产是两个领域,而国内一向重研发而轻生产。
任何产品都是不是靠高涨的爱国热情来支撑,我不觉得几千元一龙心台本本有啥竞争力。
任何产品都是不是靠高涨的爱国热情来支撑,我不觉得几千元一龙心台本本有啥竞争力。
叶子
2007-11-05
那个....研发是国内研发的,制作记得不是....
yuxie
2007-11-05
看了半天,这篇文章也没啥 “真相”抖搂出来啊,有啥难过的?
ddandyy
2007-11-05
那时候和我老爸说国内硬件技术不行
我老爸说 不是有个龙芯么............
我老爸说 不是有个龙芯么............
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